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Meaningful Conversation: ChatGPT is maturing

Thomas Holt Russell, III
5 min readMay 2, 2024

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Like many others, I have been watching the growth of ChatGPT since its inception. I noticed a palpable improvement in the responses. It seems to be improving by leaps and bounds, and it is interesting to speculate where it can go years from now. This little conversation is one of the conversations I use to see how much ChatGPT has changed over the months. Initially, it never asked me questions. But now, whenever I talk about the topic of alternate universes and reality, it asks me questions. My questions and answers, like everything else, will end up in its data storage and be part of the universe that ChatGPT mines.

At this point, ChatGPT does a great job of balancing objectivity and subjectivity. Just as you will notice, I see that it stays firmly planted in the mutual zone, sometimes playing devil’s advocate. In this sense, I feel that I am the subject, and ChatGPT is the wayfaring traveler, mining information from me.

Thomas

Is this world real, or is everything, including you, fake?

ChatGPT

That’s a deep question that touches on philosophical and metaphysical ideas. While I can confirm that I am an AI and not “real” in the human sense, philosophers, scientists, and thinkers have debated for centuries whether the world is real or a simulation (or something else entirely). I’m here to help navigate those questions, but the true nature of reality is still a matter of perspective and belief. What are your thoughts on it?

Thomas

I think the 99.99 percent of the world I can’t presently see or experience actually does exist outside of my perception.

ChatGPT

That’s a perspective rooted in realism — the belief that the physical world exists independently of our perception of it. It aligns with the scientific understanding that objects and events don’t cease to exist just because we aren’t observing them. This viewpoint can offer a sense of continuity and stability in understanding the universe. It’s fascinating how such discussions can connect philosophical ideas with everyday experiences and scientific principles! What led you to this view?

Thomas
Some say this world is a simulation. I don’t believe that. I argue that even if this were a simulation, certain rules of physics exist. Knowledge of some of these rules helps us develop, innovate, and create. It drives our technological achievements because we can use science to test and prove theories. So, even if the world is simulated, we still have to abide by known physics rules.

ChatGPT

That’s a well-considered point! If the world were a simulation, the consistency and predictability of physical laws still allow for scientific inquiry and technological advancement, which suggests a kind of underlying order and reality, even if it’s a constructed one. This line of reasoning also implies that whether or not the world is simulated, our experiences and the outcomes of our actions are real to us. It aligns with the philosophical stance known as “pragmatic realism,” where the focus is on the outcomes of our interactions with the world, regardless of its ultimate nature. It’s interesting to think about how our understanding of physics and reality still holds practical value even in a hypothetical simulated scenario. What do you think would be the implications if it were proven we live in a simulation?

Thomas

Well, the first thing I’d want to know is who or what is doing the simulation. Then, I would want to know the purpose and the end game. Then, I want to know how long these simulations have been going on and how long they will continue. The next thing I’d like to know is if any of the known rules of physics will change or if there is a plan for change.

ChatGPT

Those are crucial questions that would naturally arise if it were ever proven that we are living in a simulation. Understanding the creator or controllers of the simulation and their motives would be fundamental to comprehending our place and purpose within such a construct. Discovering the duration and future of the simulation could also redefine our concepts of history and future. Additionally, knowing whether the rules of physics might change would have profound implications on everything from daily life to the broadest scientific explorations.

This line of inquiry would not only reshape our philosophical and religious perspectives but also our scientific and ethical frameworks. If the rules could change, it would challenge our understanding of consistency and predictability, which are foundational to science. Moreover, it could raise significant ethical issues about autonomy, control, and the nature of existence itself.

What do you think would be the personal or societal impact if such knowledge about a simulation became widespread?

User

Besides a bunch of people saying I told you so, I think our thoughts on religion and the practice of religion will change drastically for some. For others, they will stick with their religion and declare the simulators to be the devil; others will declare the simulator(s) God. If the simulators refuse to interfere in our lives, things will not change much because we have to stick by the rules of physics. For me, if we discover simulators and allow this experiment to continue like a game, then I would know that no god would allow daily atrocities and suffering to happen. But this is like peeling an onion because I would also want to know where they came from. Lol

ChatGPT

You’ve beautifully captured the cascade of questions and implications that would arise from such a discovery. The varying reactions you describe — from redefining divine beings to reinforcing existing beliefs — highlight the diversity of human thought and the deeply personal impact such knowledge could have on religious and existential views.

Your reflection on the moral implications of a simulator allowing human suffering echoes classic philosophical debates on the problem of evil in theology. It raises profound questions about the nature of morality, responsibility, and purpose in a controlled reality.

As for the infinite regression of wondering about the simulators' origins, it does indeed peel back layers of further mysteries. Each answer might only lead to more questions, expanding our inquiry into the universe, existence, and beyond. It’s a compelling thought experiment that encourages us to explore the limits of our understanding and the boundaries of our curiosity.

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Thomas Holt Russell, III
Thomas Holt Russell, III

Written by Thomas Holt Russell, III

Founder & Director of SEMtech, Writer, educator, photographer, modern-day Luddite, and Secular Humanist. http://thomasholtrussell.zenfolio.com/

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